Back in February, the BMJ published a piece The Grumpy Pumper and I wrote about why language matters when talking about diabetes-related complications. After we submitted the piece, the team at BMJ we were working with asked if we would like to record a podcast to accompany our article. Of course we said yes, because we both like the sound of our own voices. Plus, we figured that we should jump at any opportunity to talk about this subject.

And so, last month while in Europe, we teed up a time and had a fantastic chat with BMJ Patient Editor, Emma Cartwright. Have a listen to us talking about our own experiences of being told about complications, and how the work we’ve been doing has been received in the diabetes community and more broadly.

Thanks so much to the BMJ for having us on this podcast and talking about this important issue. (And thanks to Emma and Duncan for being so patient and accommodating as we wrangled builders who were – it seemed – drilling into the wall right next to where we had organised to do the recording. We may or may not have bribed people to stop drilling for forty minutes so we could get the recording done!)